Gale Training

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Thank you again, everyone for being here today.

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So our session today is going to be

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learning from school power users. We've

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got three power users on the line today and

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we're taking a look at the best practices

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for utilizing Gale Ebooks.

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And I've got a short agenda here. But again,

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I want to highlight that this is a very informal

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session. We want to really focus on getting your

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questions answered. So while we

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have a lot of information, we want to give you and a lot

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of information that we actually already have prepared.

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Um We definitely want to make sure we had everything

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you guys want to know as well, but uh a brief

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agenda here. So first of course, I want to introduce

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our esteemed panelists today.

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Um After that, I'm going to do a very, very

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quick uh Gale ebooks overview.

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Just so everyone is on the same page with what

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Gale Ebooks is

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after that, we're really going to dive into the discussion

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and that's going to be the bulk of our session today

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is just talking some learning some new

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things that we can start implementing in our own learning communities.

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And then the very end of the session, I do have

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some contact information and some support

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information. So if you need a little bit more

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information, once we're done, you have

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some people to, to reach out to for that.

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So let's go ahead and get started here. So first

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off, I'll introduce myself. My name is Amber

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Winters. I'm one of the senior training

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consultants here with Gale and I'm kind of

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going to be your host for the day. Uh Not

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giving as much information as our panelists,

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but you'll be hearing me talk a fair amount.

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Uh But also on the line today, we have uh Brett

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Daggs, Christy James, Andani

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Joyce joining us and I'm going to let each of them introduce

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themselves on their own. So, Brett,

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you are first here on my screen. So if you'd like

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to just, um, let us know your role

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a little bit about your school and just a little

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bit about your collection just very briefly

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and we'll go into more depth a little bit later.

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Sure. Uh So Brett Daggs, I teach

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at Menden High School, which is a suburb of

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Rochester, New York.

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And I've been here about eight years, about 18 years

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in this profession, all at the secondary level.

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Uh Our high school, high performing

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district, we have about 1000 kids in this

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high school. There is a sister high school

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across town, so a pretty big uh district,

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uh lot of Gale products. I've been a fan

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of gale since I started in this

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career and, you know, across the curriculum

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really. Um, we get to push

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into a lot of classrooms and, uh, well,

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I'll give into the specifics about the utilization

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of some of the ebooks in particular. A little bit

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later on.

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Great. Thanks, Brett Christy. You're next

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in line here.

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Good afternoon, everyone. I'm Christy

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James at a library media services coordinator

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for Charleston County school district in

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Charleston, South Carolina.

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We're a district with about 50,000

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students. We've got 80 schools

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um including some of our charter schools that work

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closely with us. Um

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Like Brett, I am a big gale

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fan. I used Gale databases when

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I was a teacher when I loved it when

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I was a librarian and I've been

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in this district role for the past

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seven years and gale continues

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to be really important and valuable

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to our students and teachers.

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Thanks Christy and I promise we did not

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stack the panel with

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ill enthusiasts. I promise.

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Um Connie, do you wanna go ahead?

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Hi, everybody. I'm Connie Joyce.

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I am the teacher librarian at Rancho Cucamonga

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High School, which is in Rancho Cucamonga,

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California.

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Uh I've been uh TL for,

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I think this is my 20th year. I've been

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uh here at this school for 16

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years. Uh Our district is

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a high school district, Chaffee Joint Union High

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School district uh of about 24,000

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students. So we're quite large.

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Um, I too love gale products.

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It's the first go to that I use. We have

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the, uh, many, well, a few of the databases

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and I love buying the ebooks and

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thank you for having me.

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Great, thanks guys. So let

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me give just a quick overview about Guilty

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books before we really start talking just because

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you never know if someone's new to Guilty books. I want

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to make sure everyone knows what we're talking about. So of

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course, by the title, you can all assume

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that Guilty Ebooks are in fact ebooks, but

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uh we're not just talking about the ebooks

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strictly. Gil ebooks is also the platform

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that those ebooks are housed on. So we

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not only provide you with the, the

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ebooks themselves, but we also

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hold them to on a really simple platform that's

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very similar to other Gill resources.

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So if you have Gill and context resources

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or maybe Gill one file resources,

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we try to keep the platform looking as

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similar as we possibly can with the different

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content types. So we do provide

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you with that as well and the access to these ebooks

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is unlimited. So it's 24 access,

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24 7 access. It

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is nonfiction ebooks and of course, they're curated

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specifically for your library and for your learning community.

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So just so everyone knows little disclaimer.

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Um A couple of our panelists will be showing their

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collections today and most likely they're going to look different

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than yours

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because of course, they choose different,

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uh, selections. Of course, if you're a librarian on

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the line who does your own curation, you

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already know that. But if we have any educators on the

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line, most likely your ebook collection

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is not going to look exactly like theirs. So

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make sure you take a look at yours once we're done with the session

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today. Um, but we do have guilty

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books that cover really every subject

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area from elementary school all the way

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up to uh adult education as well

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as professional development, ebooks and things

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like that.

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And in addition to all of the great just

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text and content available, we include

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a lot of different tools within the GE

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ebooks platform that's going to help your students

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thrive and really kind of dig into the text.

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So we do include a translation feature.

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If you have students who need Spanish

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language or need Arabic or French, we

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have the ability to translate each of our ebooks.

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We also have a listen feature highlights

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and notes that really let your students talk to

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the text as they move forward in their learning.

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We have Google and Microsoft integrations as well

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as integration into learning management systems.

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And we do have a nice citation gene that

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generator that's going to support your students

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as well. And I being a former teacher,

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I really love the citation generator, especially

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if you're trying to uh get buy in from your students

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because they're not building their own anymore. You know,

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they can just click a button, copy and paste and they're good

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to go,

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um, you know, instead of going on Google when they have to

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Google and they have to figure out exactly what their citations

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should be.

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Just little,

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my little blurb there is, it's, it's a nice way to get by

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and is to use that citation tool.

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Does anyone have quick questions just about

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guilty books just in general before

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we really get into our discussion here?

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Ok. We are quiet. So let's

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go ahead and get going then. So I've

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pulled out some questions that I wanted

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to ask our panelists today.

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But again, as we're going through, if you think of something,

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we will totally jump off of my script

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and get to what you want to know. But my

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first question that I think is really just to set

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kind of a, a base level here is uh what

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were your initial goals for your ebooks? So as you

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were curating your collections, what were

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you looking for? Were you trying to hit a specific

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uh age group, a specific department,

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a specific class even? Um

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what were your goals while you were starting to look at your ebooks?

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Brett? I see you're unmuted. So you want to go ahead and

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take over to be

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sure. So nothing

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probably overly strategic early

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on other than just seeing what, what the benchmark

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is what are we starting with and rounding

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out where, I mean, the obvious thing is where

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all the research needs, particularly for ebooks,

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reference books is a foundational tool

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there. And I inherited a very

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good collection I only added to it over the years.

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I will say in time permitting, maybe

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later on, I'll share this

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uh one strategy

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right around COVID, right? When

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social emotional learning was really ramping

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up. And even before then,

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um the Cameron's collection is

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a set of ebooks that we purchase here. I got some grant

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money to do that

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and trying to get some traction with that, push it out

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via a lib guide. Um And

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actually, can I share the screen now or is that? Ok?

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Yeah. Feel free.

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Wal Brett's doing that. Just so everyone's aware, Cameron's

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collection is our collection of uh social

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and emotional learning, mental health ebooks.

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Um I'll try to

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pull up a bit of information and pop it

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into the uh the chat for

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you all. If I can't get it there today, I'll put it

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in our follow up email if you are interested

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in that. But it looks like Brett's got his screen

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shared here. So

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and so, so I might so we have it

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both ways. They can obviously get to it through

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the ebook platform, uh

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which is one option we could use that way.

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But the lib guide enabled me to

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categorize some of these

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uh a little bit more

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topically. Right. But either way it gets

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to the same content and it's

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nice, you know, when we've been able to introduce this to

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students doing, uh, we have a number of students who

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do senior inquiry, uh, topics of their choice

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and that maybe not surprisingly, a lot of them are

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touching upon some of these issues here. This

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is nice content, but in particular

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I had in mind our, the staff,

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the, the, so the social workers, school

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psychologists, people like that, that are having

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these private meetings with students and families

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as a way to push this content out to

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get some

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um

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you know, academic content to

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go along with whatever consultations we're having with the students.

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So uh that's one per

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perhaps particular way we've used

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it in recent years. So I'll go ahead and stop

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sharing the screen now.

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Great. Thank you, Brett. Let me share

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mine again.

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Um I believe we're going Christy.

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You're next in line here. We're still following

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that same

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pathway.

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Sure. Um When I came into

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the district role, um we

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did have a small collection of Gale

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ebooks. But my biggest

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thing when I came in was focusing

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on the equity across our district.

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We had very large high schools

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that had larger budgets and could

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afford to have a decent print

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um reference collection. And then

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we had smaller high schools who

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it just it was not feasible for them

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to keep up with quality

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reference materials in a print

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format. So I was looking

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at the equity piece and with

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these being multiuser ebooks,

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being able to provide that same

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high quality content to all

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of our students was definitely

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a key consideration.

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Um

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When we started adding additional

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books, um I was focused

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on supplementing what our textbooks

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were missing. Um Our state

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um in South Carolina pays for our textbooks

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and it's supposed to be a six year adoption cycle

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when I first came in.

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We were um our world

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history books were 12 years old

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and there was no nothing on

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the horizon that those were going to be

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updated or um

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replaced. So I wanted to

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make sure that we had

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quality materials that teachers

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could use and provide for their students

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because we knew that, I mean, most

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teachers aren't gonna rely on the textbooks alone

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anyway. But our materials

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were so far out of date and

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inadequate for what we needed. And

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then I was focusing on science

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and social studies because those were

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the largest needs. Um

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I'll share my screen around some

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of the cool things we did with

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um science and social studies

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to get teachers on board later. But

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then to piggyback on what Brett shared.

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Apparently that's what I'm gonna do all day is Brett says

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it. So I'm gonna echo it.

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Um We also

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have Cameron's collection. Um

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We were able to start adding

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some of the books before COVID

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and then when COVID came around and

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there were additional title for funding

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opportunities. Um We

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completed our collection and we've continued

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to use that title four grant funding

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every year to provide

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the books for students

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as well as for teachers. So

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we've got a whole professional development

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collection that helps teachers

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um

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be able to better address

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various student needs as well

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as having those high quality vetted materials

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that students have access to. Um

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So that mental health piece was really, really

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important because even though I know all

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our librarians are fantastic and approachable,

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there's still always going to be topics

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that a student may not want to come

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in and say, where are the books

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on this or bring that

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book up to the circulation

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desk and check out? But they

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can 24 7 anytime

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anyplace have access to those

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quality um mental health resources

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and student wellness.

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That is a, a great point. Christy. I, I

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appreciate that it is. I think

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ebooks provides a little bit of security

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and safety for students. You know, they can look

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at things that maybe they're just,

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they don't even want other students to know they're looking

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at, you know, ebooks about divorce, you know, maybe

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that's something really personal to them. So it

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is great that you're able to provide that safe,

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um vetted and secure but

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safe private place for them to kind of explore

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on their own and learn what they need to.

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Uh, Connie, you are up. Oh,

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I was just going to say that it, it's

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not that there's a specific

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department or something that,

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um, I hone into for the ebooks.

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It's mainly overall

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but it really helps, um,

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you know, as time gone got goes by and

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I've been here for so long that

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you see some teachers

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that they don't sign up for a specific project

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the next year and then they start doing

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things online and the students

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are just Googling

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and, uh, this,

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I've been trying to go to departments and

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showing them the databases,

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the ebooks and if you can just try to get them

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off of Googling, even if they don't want

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to have me teach it, they

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can use it on their own. Um,

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that really helps.

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Um, but it also has extended

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the library

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when teachers hear that I will come to their

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classroom and I will teach from there or

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even just be a support and be roaming

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around the classroom and asking and answering

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questions.

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Um, it's made my job so much

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different, you

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know, and I love with the gale ebooks that

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just like the databases, the kids can annotate.

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Yeah, that's, that's great. Con, I love the

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idea of you being able to get in with teachers

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into the classroom. I can say,

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um, I would have loved to have

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more of that when I was in the classroom.

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Definitely, it's great to have

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that available for everyone. I appreciate

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you. Sharing that here.

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Um Yeah, Christy, I agree. Extend

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the library.

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That's our goal here is to get the library out

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to your learning communities

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in any way we can, right, any way we can do

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it. So I'm going to pivot just a little

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bit since we're talking about kind of extending out

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of the library here. Um So

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how did you communicate to your staff?

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You know, once you get a collection and continuously as well,

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you know, of course, you get a collection year

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and maybe next year after summer, it's slipped

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our minds a little bit. So, uh how

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do you communicate with your staff? How did you get by and initially

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and how do you keep getting by and keep

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retaining that interest? Um Right,

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you can go first or someone else wants to go first this

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time. That's fine as well.

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I'm happy to, unless we'd like to flip the order,

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I'll go one more time. So,

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you know, the nature of the job is what and

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when you're a school librarian at the secondary level,

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you have to create your own offense, so to speak. Right?

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And no one's necessarily they will invite you in on

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occasion, but, you know, uh you won't be

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invited back in unless you have something I supposed to

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offer.

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And again, just being a fan of these

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products for many years,

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um I think the passion is

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there and quite honestly, the functionality

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it kind of sells itself once they realize,

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I mean, students are going to come back to this and teachers are

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going to come back to it when they've had success

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with it. Not just because you tell them to go back to it all the time.

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Right. And that's increasingly

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what I find with a little bit

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of instruction. They make traction

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very quickly and realize that this is their best

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friend. You know, I, I tell them all the time,

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I said Google is not here necessary to serve

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you or me even hierarchically.

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But the people that put these products together have

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your best interests in mind. And the quicker you realize

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that the more successful you're gonna be in high school.

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So I push into classrooms

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often and quite honestly, I prefer to teach in

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the classroom because the environment is already established

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there. Um It just, it seems

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to increasingly go better and

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um I don't know, the, I guess

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the availability of, of pushing I

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was about ready to type into the chat here.

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I think these particular products

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just really enable us to get at this

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idea of embedded librarianship better

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than uh traditional models.

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So I don't know, I just

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see collaboration and I've never,

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I can't recall the last time I did anything collaboratively

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that didn't involve some way, shape or form

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some of these uh these products.

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I love Brett that you said that Gail

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wasn't created to support us

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and or sorry that Google wasn't created

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to support us. That's not something I've ever

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said or thought of, but I'm going to say it now because

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that is exactly right, Gail we

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do, we, we were made to support you guys

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and um Google was made

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to support everyone indiscriminately. So

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that, that's a great,

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that's a great feeling that I never thought of before.

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Yeah. Well, just to add on here,

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um

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when they say the functionality, I mean, there are many databases

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out there and platforms. I tell the kids to if you learn

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how to drive one,

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sorry,

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it always has to happen, right?

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No matter what

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the danger of being in a school,

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I will, I I know where Brett was

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going with this because that was actually one of the things

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I wanted to talk about because we

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have a number of gale databases

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through our state library that's, that are provided

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to all our districts as well as

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additional ones that are district purchases

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and those have been around for a while.

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So those are pretty solid

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with our teachers. And so when I introduce

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and share the ebooks, I'm always like, y'all

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know how to use these already because the navigation

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is so similar and that

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makes it easier for them to make use

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of as well as easier for

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the students to make use of it feels familiar.

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So if they've used biography in context

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and they open up

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an ebook of a biography

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about a specific person,

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they're going to feel very confident and

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comfortable immediately. There's, there's

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not a lot of um added

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time on that.

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Um I always call gale our

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easy button for teachers. So

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it's one of those things that

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it's not

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a lot of extra time to

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learn and figure out it's pretty intuitive

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navigation wise. But also

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there's so many things that it can

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do that will make their lives easier.

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Um Obviously just the integrated

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navigation. But gale

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also um especially the ebooks,

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they do a fantastic job

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um connecting and integrating

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with learning management systems. Our district

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uses canvas and

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it's magic. It is seamless.

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And it's one of those things where,

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you know, like, remember when you show a six

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year old, a magic trick and their eyes just

[00:19:20.939]
get so big, that's what happens to a room

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full of teachers when you show them

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and you can embed this part

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of an ebook or part

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of an article in your

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canvas assignment or in your canvas

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announcement. And it's just like, oh my goodness,

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because they see that that's something

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that makes their lives easier. So I really

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emphasize that this is

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not one more thing.

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It is actually the thing that

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when it's integrated makes their day

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to day so much easier. And

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then I always circle back to the and

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it's vetted and its quality and

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you're not just sending them

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to the wild wild world of Google.

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Um

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As far as marketing. I've done

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a lot of 30 minute sessions.

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Um, I've found that that's kind of the sweet

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spot for our teachers. They, they

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are kind of commitment phobic, um,

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around times that are longer than 45

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minutes. But I've found that I

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can share a lot of great resources

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in a short amount of time.

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Um, and they've responded to that.

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I invite myself to a lot

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of meetings. Um, I'm just like,

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oh, you're having a department meeting, I'm gonna be

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here and when I introduce

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myself, then I, you know, share

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a couple of things and,

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you know, generally I'm able to

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share some information. Um

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We also try to do a lot of social

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media. We do a regular weekly post

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that did, you know about different

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digital resources and every

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2 to 3 weeks, some feature product

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from Gale is on there and

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that just kind of captures people's attention.

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Um The biggest thing

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that and I promise I won't have this

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much to say in the next couple because they're more

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student centered. But from a district perspective,

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one of the things that

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we did that will

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um

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that made a big difference for our teachers

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and thinking about that easy button

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Gale offers an alignment service.

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So this is

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our collection of middle

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school social studies books.

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And so they added shelves,

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we've got, you know, a collection of maps

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and atlases and primary sources that are for

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everyone. But then we've got

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our sixth grade standards broken

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down. So if they're on

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this standard,

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they can click on that.

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Well, there's such

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when my internet works, they could

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click on that. And the gale

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ebooks we have specifically

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for

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that portion of their standards

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come up. Um, it is

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a little bit of an extra fee to do the alignment.

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But again, when I tell

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a teacher that they're not just searching

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through 800 of our gale

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ebooks that they can go and look and

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here's 22 and then they

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can look and narrow that down and

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figure out what makes the most sense.

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Um But these alignments

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have been really, really powerful.

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Um We use clever as

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our single sign on. And

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so the teachers see

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um depending on their grade level that we've

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got science for middle school, science

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for high school s or social studies

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for middle school, social studies for high school.

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And then the teachers can also integrate

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these collections directly into

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their canvas courses as well

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to make it even more seamless. So,

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um those added conveniences,

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that's been a huge part of

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how we market and what's really

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gotten teachers excited and

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ready to buy in.

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So it sounds like Christy, your um

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your main talking point no matter where you

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are is easy.

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That's your word that I

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Yeah. Yes. So

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we put it there because it

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does, it is easy and

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just reminding them that

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this is here and this is how easy

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it is. So little effort,

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big results.

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That's good in the world of education.

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Yes,

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I agree.

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Well, thank you for that Christy. I will pause quickly

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before we get to Connie. Um,

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we just had a message in the Q and

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A and I know that none of us are going to have this

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answer right now because I don't think any of us are prepared

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for it.

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Um, but we had a question asking about,

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um, circulation stats regarding

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Cameron's collection if you guys, um,

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have any numbers and of course, I don't ever wanna share

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your specific numbers, but,

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um, I'm going to get with you guys after the session

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to maybe see, uh, you know, if you have some

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trends that you see, maybe you see a lot of

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ebooks that are really getting coverage and getting

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used, you know, in January or,

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um, so I'm going to get with you after the session. I just

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want our, uh, question, ask her to know that,

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um, I'm gonna reach out and see what kind of

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information we can give them.

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But, um, but let's go ahead and

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move on and have Connie talk to us a little bit about

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how she communicates with her staff.

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I don't really have anything new other

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than, uh,

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or just to, um, reiterate what

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they were saying. Um,

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my big thing is to get out to the

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department meetings

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and I know for a lot of us it's getting

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out of our little box,

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which is many of us are pretty introverted

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as I am. And so doing

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that is you have to push yourself.

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And um it's not hard for me to

[00:24:50.328]
do the English department. I was an English teacher but

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getting myself over to social studies,

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science,

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try to do that at least once a year.

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Um e especially try to connect

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with the new teachers and we

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all know it's all word of mouth. You get

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one teacher

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and then they talk to their core leads,

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they talk to their um grade

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level group and then it just starts.

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Then the next year you have two teachers to work

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with. Uh this year my

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social studies teach uh department

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never used to come into the library and I had three

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this year. So I feel like this year was

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such a success and

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two of them are new teachers. And

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so and, and that's how it starts. It's just,

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you know, word of mouth. That's all all

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you really can do.

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Oh and little oh and little

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um little gifts, little bribes

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also really help. We've

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taken um little candies

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and I've taken um

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made cute little thank yous

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and covered the label

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and say thank you for working with the library

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ladies and put that in their boxes.

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Um Just

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a little treat that they like,

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I love that I'm all about treats, you

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know. So since I've worked with you, if you

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can send one my way as well. It'd be greatly

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appreciated.

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No, but I love the idea of kind of the

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dam breaking a little bit, you know, like you

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had a couple trickles of people coming in,

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but now you're starting to see more and that's, it's

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great. It's showing that what you're doing is working and

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I think that's, that's powerful just

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to know that something is working is, is really

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nice

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And I want to kind of come from a different

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angle with this question and it's one that I know no

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one really likes to talk about, but I think it's nice to,

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just to mention it. So,

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um I'm assuming you've all received pushback

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on things. I think we all get it no matter

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who we're talking to, no matter what we're talking about.

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Um If you do ever get pushed back about

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something, maybe, you know, just they don't like the platform

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or maybe they're confused about why you're using

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this instead of the physical textbook.

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Um You know, what do you say to that person? What

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sort of things do you try to, to get across to them?

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Of course, Christy has her easy button, which

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I agree is great. But um have you experienced

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other things that you've kind of had to navigate through and

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how did you do that?

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Um I'll wait and again, here. So

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not much pushback. I mean, again,

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the products are superior, the kids have success

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um the only thing that, well, actually this

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is a recent phenomenon this year, I've been working with

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one English teacher in particular that

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uh goes the extra mile for 1/10

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grade editorial project. And we talk

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a lot about source variety

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uh in that particular assignment, which is good.

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But on occasion, you know, if I'm

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pitching databases or ebooks as a starting

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place for a lot of the research,

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occasionally she wants to move it over into what

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she might consider more real world application

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because the kids are going to be searching for podcasts and then Google

[00:27:49.078]
and Infographics and all which is fine, totally

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fine. And we have a nice uh co

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teaching style.

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But when all is done even giving

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them the options, once they've experienced

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the, the easy and the success

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of some of these gale products and particularly, you know,

[00:28:03.713]
the ebooks,

[00:28:05.045]
the kids will come back to those,

[00:28:07.193]
they'll gravitate back to that given the choice of doing

[00:28:09.424]
something that is potentially even easier. Google searching,

[00:28:11.674]
whatever I think that they, they're willing

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to camp out in some of these gale products

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anyhow, despite what we say about, you know, broadening

[00:28:18.664]
their horizons. So, um

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not a whole lot of push back, but that's something that recent

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that recently that's relevant to your question, I think.

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Yeah, that's great. I'm, I'm glad you're getting

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the buy in and not feeling the pushback. I, I love

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to hear that.

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Um So we can definitely move on if Christine kind

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of, if you kind of feel the same way that

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you've gotten in there and you get the, you get

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everyone seeing the easy and it kind of flows.

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That's,

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that's perfect for me. That's what I like to hear.

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Um I will pause quickly. We haven't gotten

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any questions in the Q and A. I wanna make sure

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that we're hitting everything

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our attendees here today are looking for.

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So again, utilize that Q and A

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when you think of a question, we'll be sure to, to

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get to that. But um we'll just

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keep going with what I thought of since

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we haven't had any come in here. So,

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oh, there we go.

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Um So I want to move on from kind

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of marketing and promoting to teachers.

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Uh How did you grab your students attention specifically?

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So how did you, I know of course a lot, um a couple

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of you have talked about getting into the classroom and just working,

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but what specifically did you use?

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You know, how did you actually get in there? And I

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know it's really hard, especially we have high school

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librarians on the line to actually grab a high schooler

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attention. So uh how

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did you do that? Anyone can start

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again if we want Brett to go first or if we want to switch

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it up, whoever

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I'm gonna pop in very quickly because

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um

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I don't work directly with students

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all the time, but I did have an

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opportunity to do some co

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teaching

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with around gale ebooks with one of

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our newer librarians. And

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the minute I showed them the citation

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piece, they were like, that's it.

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So it was kind of like the easy button for students

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also. But the citation piece

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they were like,

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and it's all here. I was like, yes.

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Um, so that was, um,

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really powerful and that got everybody's

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attention

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because they could kind of check that part of

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their work off.

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I agree that it,

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you know, teachers, we all remember

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how it was to do them on note cards

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on source cards.

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And students are like, well, you know, they take

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it for granted that it's there. Uh But

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I do notice my students do appreciate

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uh they really like the annotation

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and I do still have some teachers who

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do physical note cards and they

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don't have to do that

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um when they annotate in Gale

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and here in California, um

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the state does pay for Proquest

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and they don't have that ability.

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So we really do focus on Gale

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uh platforms and it,

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I just love that Gale ebooks

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versus any of the databases

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we subscribe to

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the

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interface is the same.

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So the kids really don't even notice the difference

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between an ebook and

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the high school database at all

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and the fact that it's integrated with one drive

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or with their Google Drive

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and then just with one click, they send

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it over and it has, oh, and the

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color coding too, we go into,

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uh, breaking down their topics. What are

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some good ideas on how to break this

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down? And, um,

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we give some examples and

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then

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they do their articles and then we share

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out

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how they separated it

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and it's just so beneficial.

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I agree. It's so nice to have that kind

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of guided pathway to organized research.

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I know a lot of students that's kind of the,

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the sticking point, especially if they graduate

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and are planning on going off to college is

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uh you know, they're organizing themselves now.

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So if we can give them those skills before they

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get there, that's, that's incredibly powerful

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and I will stop quickly because we have a question

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uh from Shayna here that I just want to answer

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before we kind of move forward. Um

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So the question is, is there a way for a teacher to view

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student annotations and for

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the, and or for them to be integrated with Google Docs

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to add quotes to a paper? So,

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Shana, they can't see annotations that are being

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made on the resource itself.

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But the uh highlights and

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notes that any annotations they take can

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actually be sent over to their Google Drive.

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Um When it's sent over to their drive, it goes over

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as a Google Doc. So they'll be able to save it on

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their own and they can share that doc or edit

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that doc with, you know,

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whoever they want to. So, if it's a teacher,

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uh, the teacher can ask to have those sent over

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to them. Uh, that's the best way to do that is

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to go ahead and go in there and you'll be able to send it over

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to your drive.

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And Brett, I saw you on muting. So

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I'll let you go ahead and pick it back up.

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Yeah. So, you know, I wish I had

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a student, um,

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evidence for this. It's more of my suspicion

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than anything else. But I honestly think sometimes

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particularly our upper class when they're little, they get

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bored. Right. Doing the Google Search

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if it, if it's that easy. And I think,

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I think there's something to the sophistication

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of the products, but they're not so sophisticated

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that they can't find their way around. Right. It's,

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it's that state of flow almost. I mean, they get

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there and they'll stay there.

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Um which I like, you know,

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the other panelists have mentioned this too, but the functionality,

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so many things you can do with it, the citation feature alone,

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right? We use noodle Bib, you

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know, importing that, that stuff into noodle Bib is,

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is awesome. We're in office 365

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school, right. As much as I teach, our kids are

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really uh leaning on that too, for

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integration of the content.

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But,

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you know, here's the thing too. It's just I didn't

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stumble upon this early on but recently

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I find my way, I find myself teaching

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it and many kids like this

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notion, let's say any, any research project, it doesn't

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matter what the content area is.

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Uh, I'll give an example, senior inquiry

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somebody's doing. So, I'm sorry, rather a public policy

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project. They're doing it on affirmative action. Right.

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And they were in the Ebook platform

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and we're modeling the search

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and they come up with affirmative action but they can see

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it through different lenses of different ebooks

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and they like that. Right. Well, there's

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the idea of affirmative action as seen through

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uh you know, encyclopedia of us

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Supreme Court. There, there's the lens

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through social sciences, there's the lens

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through American history, African American

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history, any number of things, right? And

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we get some traction out of that. We're actually getting them to

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sit down and compare and contrast or

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actually think about those different lenses that

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they wouldn't have necessarily stumbled upon in a regular

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internet search,

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you know, so they, they, they get there

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and they stay there because quite

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honestly, I think they're more interested.

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I love that idea. But I think a lot of times

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we talk about, you know, our accessibility tools,

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our translate tools, our text manipulation

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tools that are really helpful for students who are

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struggling readers and who may um

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are maybe a little bit behind where they should

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be in their grades. Um But this,

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the sophistication is also great for students who

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are maybe a little more advanced.

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I love the idea of maybe getting those board

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students back in the resources, you know, they,

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they have no trouble Googling anything but,

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you know, all that's doing is spitting out content

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for them. So the idea of them being able to

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really engage meaningfully with the text

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and kind of dig in on their own and maybe start using

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our filters, our advanced

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searches to kind of build those research skills

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that they're most likely not going to get with Google. That's

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that's powerful to kind of see the

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other side. We're supporting our struggling

[00:35:30.898]
learners and we're also supporting our more advanced

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learners who are ready to kind of take another step

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into research that's really powerful.

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Um So let's go ahead and keep moving. I will say,

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and we had someone mention um our accessibility

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tools in the Q and A. So,

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um we'll just throw it out there again.

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Um When we're talking about accessibility tools,

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we're talking about the fact that you can um

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listen to the text, have the text read to

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you, you can translate the text. Um You

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can change the text formatting so you

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can choose a different font, you can choose a different color.

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So um really

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allowing students to customize what theyre

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accessing in a really easy and meaningful

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way to make sure that everyone is getting what they need.

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Uh So thank you for that quick

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comment there in the Q and I, I appreciate that.

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Uh Let's move forward here. So

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we've, we've gotten our students attention now

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now that we have their attention. What

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sort of activities are you guys using Guilty books

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for? Brett? You already mentioned a few projects

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um that you use that for? But

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what other activities do you use it for? It can't just be

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one project a year. Hopefully. So,

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again, anyone, uh, Connie,

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why don't we? Have you go first, I'm going to volunteer

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you. Is that all right?

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Mix it up a little bit.

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Well, there's no, uh,

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you know, activities that are

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generated by me. It's normally

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the other way around. So, on this

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campus, we have a lot of

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um social issues projects,

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you know, controversial issues. We have

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um uh career

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papers.

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Those are the two biggest things. Uh

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And then now the, a little

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bit of social studies coming

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in, you know, the new, um A

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P African

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American studies class

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that is one of the new teachers who has come in.

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So we've been working hand in hand all

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year because they have a huge research

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project

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that is their test.

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Um So there's another really

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good way to use your gale

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ebooks and database.

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And she has, and I've never worked with her

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before. She's worked, she's been here before me

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and she's never come in with her prep kids or anything.

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And now with this new class,

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she suddenly is seeing all the

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things that we have and um,

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it's just been spectacular. So,

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uh hopefully she'll be coming back for her regular

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classes as well.

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I love that. I love that. She's willing

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to come in more than just for projects alone.

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You know, she has her big projects that she's definitely

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using Gil for. But she's coming in through the year

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because it's always helpful to just get students

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used to these ebooks before those big projects.

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So then you're not teaching them how to do the project and

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how to use Gil ebooks. You know, they're, they're

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comfortable, they're just hopping in. So it's,

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it's great that you have a teacher coming in to try

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to get that done.

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Um I will pop in.

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Um,

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I know that we market

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a lot of our ebooks to our content

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area teachers around

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ways to make sure

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that they're actually hitting all their standards

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because any textbook

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that they may have is not going

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to perfectly match all of our state

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based standards, but we're buying

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ebooks based on those state based

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standards. So we're using those

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to fill in gaps. But also

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a lot of teachers are making use

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of portions of the ebooks to

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help front load information

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before a project or before,

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um, getting into a new unit. And

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then they're also using them,

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of course, for individual

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research and when the kids go into

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more deep dive mode. Um Another

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thing that we make use

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of our ebooks for,

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of course, we're connecting with our counselors

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um around that sel content

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with our Cameron's collection and Cameron's camp

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for Wellness and being,

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having the counselors have those

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ready and available to

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share. That's been great.

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But um we use our professional

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development collection for various

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book clubs because they're great

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for book studies. They're

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um multiuser ebooks.

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So it's great to

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be able to have like our Multilingual

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teachers um used

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one of the books as a book

[00:39:53.398]
study and they were spread out

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across all schools, but they were doing

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this zoom professional book study

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based on this book that

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was in our gale ebook collection. So

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that's been some,

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it's been great to see teachers and

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staff use it as well as our

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students.

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I really appreciate that you mentioned getting

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the cameraman's collection ebooks out to

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counselors because I think it's

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easy to overlook that especially with

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the billions and billions of things that you all

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are doing. So that is, I definitely

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appreciate you kind of reminding all of us

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that it's not just teachers who are going to use these E books,

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you know, you have support staff who could really

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benefit, you know, um reading interventionists,

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your admin who may be doing work with students,

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your counselors if you do have social emotional

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learning ebooks. So, um Christy, I thank

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you for for making that point just reminding us that

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there are a lot of people we can reach with these ebooks

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um, in addition to our teachers,

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can I just add something Amber

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from Christy saying that, um,

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I sub at least once a week

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around here and, um, I use that

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opportunity to plug the library

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and so I'll show them, you know,

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the ebooks that we have or the databases.

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I, I go over chromebook stuff

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but one thing when I show them the sel

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resources we have,

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I really plug that all of it's anonymous

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that they're not checking out anything and

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there's, you see a lot of the kids, there's

[00:41:20.590]
their eyes open up a little bit

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and that is where I've seen

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our, um, numbers really go up

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because being anonymous

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is everything when it comes

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to these topics.

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Um, I don't know. It's made a big

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difference, I think because getting

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them to check the physical books out is

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hard enough. But here, the fact

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that they can go there on their phones, their

[00:41:44.820]
parents don't see it, their friends don't see it

[00:41:47.378]
and everybody can access it. There's no checking

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out. You don't have to worry about an ebook

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coming back.

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Um, it's multi user. They love it

[00:42:04.329]
a couple of thoughts. Uh, I'm trying to think

[00:42:06.519]
of new things I haven't already covered

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and just yesterday

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there is a social science teacher. I've worked

[00:42:13.239]
with, uh, several years now.

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Uh, we work well together but she's going to be

[00:42:17.978]
teaching a new prep next year on the Comparative

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Religions. I guess it's an elective we haven't had here

[00:42:22.519]
since I've been here in the past eight years.

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And she stopped me, say, hey, I want to sit down and talk

[00:42:26.708]
about, you know, planning for next year. I don't

[00:42:28.978]
even know if she's starting out with a textbook, you know. So

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there's a perfect opportunity to call

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our collection.

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You know, I go back to the click days. It's

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not called click anymore. But that whole idea of you

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can actually take your ebook collection

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and make that foundational for,

[00:42:43.869]
you know, many, many particular courses

[00:42:45.918]
we couldn't ever afford, you know, that at

[00:42:47.958]
this dis district or the other one, I

[00:42:50.030]
think in recent years because who isn't,

[00:42:52.070]
you know, suffering from dwindling budgets and all

[00:42:54.199]
that. But the, but the idea is the same that

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you can actually go through that collection and build

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up a pretty healthy uh you

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know, amount of materials to

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uh you know, ground, of course

[00:43:05.079]
there. So I'm gonna be looking to work with her

[00:43:07.188]
over the next couple weeks to plan it for next year.

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I love that. I think flexibility is definitely

[00:43:13.429]
something ebooks have going for

[00:43:15.570]
them. You know, it's

[00:43:17.119]
often times a lot easier to deal with

[00:43:19.250]
books and trying to deal with, you know, textbook

[00:43:21.849]
updates and getting what textbooks

[00:43:24.208]
where they need to go. So I love that idea

[00:43:26.289]
of flexibility being available when you need it.

[00:43:28.469]
That's definitely something, something to kind

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of point out.

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OK, so let's go ahead and move forward

[00:43:36.500]
again. So I have one more question I kind

[00:43:38.639]
of pre organized and then it's going

[00:43:40.840]
to be up to our lovely attendees to give

[00:43:42.949]
us some more questions to answer. But I've

[00:43:45.119]
got one more that I just

[00:43:47.179]
was very interested in that I want to hear about

[00:43:49.250]
here. Um I want

[00:43:51.360]
you guys as tips and tricks. I want

[00:43:53.579]
what you love to do. I want what you show

[00:43:55.659]
your students we've got citation down, so

[00:43:57.938]
we'll give that one for front

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and I know we've got easy down as well. But,

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um, what other tips do you have?

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How do you really maximize

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your ebooks?

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You all know how to use these ebooks and you know how to get your students,

[00:44:17.619]
Tony. I see that you are unmuted. So I'm thinking

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you wanna go first.

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Uh, I thought I could go over the,

[00:44:23.340]
your Mark records.

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Um, people may not know

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that Gale offers free

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Mark records for the ebooks which,

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um, have really helped so

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that students can look for print

[00:44:36.789]
and the ebooks at the same time.

[00:44:39.139]
So,

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uh, let me share my screen here.

[00:44:53.389]
Oops. Ok. So

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most of you know that

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whether it's an ebook or a book,

[00:45:00.010]
reference books, the Mark records

[00:45:02.418]
are pretty bad.

[00:45:04.188]
They're very scant

[00:45:05.760]
and the content note looks something like this.

[00:45:08.300]
Here's the Renaissance and reformation

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book. And how are students

[00:45:12.559]
supposed to find anything in a, in a book

[00:45:14.679]
when it goes A through KL

[00:45:17.329]
through Z.

[00:45:19.188]
So here whether it's a book or an ebook,

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we

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rec catalog like crazy, sorry

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about the Bell.

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Uh,

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and we do this for, you know, our social

[00:45:30.728]
issue books, everything. And that's

[00:45:33.110]
where we really see our circulation

[00:45:35.139]
go up because

[00:45:37.349]
our philosophy is that we are competing against

[00:45:39.619]
Google and you're spending all

[00:45:41.719]
of this money on your print sources,

[00:45:43.938]
your ebooks, whatever it is

[00:45:46.438]
and then it doesn't generate, it doesn't go

[00:45:48.500]
out. So why spend the money

[00:45:50.719]
if you're not willing to spend the time

[00:45:52.898]
rec cataloging? So here's another

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example,

[00:45:56.539]
you know, the American Decades series

[00:45:59.188]
and all it does is have the

[00:46:01.250]
years.

[00:46:02.989]
There's another one A through de

[00:46:05.000]
through L Russian History,

[00:46:08.099]
no topics whatsoever. It has a little

[00:46:10.300]
bit of topics up here in the summary,

[00:46:13.418]
but that's it.

[00:46:14.648]
So what do we do? We add

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um in it, we add an additional content

[00:46:19.378]
note of 505 or a summary

[00:46:21.648]
note 500

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and yes, it can take some

[00:46:26.398]
time, but it is so well worth

[00:46:28.478]
it. I mean, you're spending 300 plus

[00:46:30.800]
dollars for this huge volume

[00:46:33.039]
set. Um But

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many of them we find on

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Google by Googling the ISBN

[00:46:39.610]
number of the print version because

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some other OPEC has already

[00:46:43.889]
done the work

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and found it or added it for

[00:46:47.208]
you and then I just copy and paste it

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into our Me Mark

[00:46:50.760]
record. So that's pretty easy.

[00:46:52.918]
But if I can't find it then.

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Yes, I'm gonna have to do the work.

[00:46:57.429]
I use the table contents but a lot

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of times the table of contents isn't there

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or it's

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again just saying a through ef

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through G something like that.

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So I actually use the index

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and it can take me up to an hour for

[00:47:12.978]
a full volume set. I'll go

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through the, the index and if it's anything

[00:47:17.228]
significant,

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meaning like three pages or more

[00:47:20.989]
of a topic, then I add it as

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a summary note of 500.

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And I'll just say, you know, topics include

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such and such comma such and such comma

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yes, it's tedious.

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But again, why spend the money

[00:47:35.148]
because it's not going to go out

[00:47:37.289]
if you don't put in that content

[00:47:39.579]
note or summary. So here's

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an example of how I fixed that first book,

[00:47:43.769]
The Renaissance and Reformation.

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And here's just some of the things that I found

[00:47:48.199]
in uh the table contents or

[00:47:50.360]
the index.

[00:47:52.458]
And here's the American decades I just

[00:47:54.570]
showed you

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and this one. OK.

[00:47:58.728]
I don't know if I found it or had

[00:48:00.849]
to actually do the content note.

[00:48:03.030]
Now, this is just a through eye of

[00:48:05.148]
the Russian history one

[00:48:07.500]
and it continues. So it was

[00:48:09.708]
a long,

[00:48:11.610]
so you can see what a big task

[00:48:13.898]
this is, right? But again,

[00:48:17.050]
if they were Googling, they would have found all

[00:48:19.148]
of these topics just like that.

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And here's another one.

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So what if you don't have time because I,

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I'm sure some of you are going, that is just

[00:48:31.349]
time labor intensive.

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Um, what I do is first

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when I buy, I, I buy the ebooks

[00:48:37.800]
once a year and when I get the Mark,

[00:48:40.510]
um, record download,

[00:48:43.239]
I drop them all into a resource list

[00:48:45.929]
to deal with when I have time.

[00:48:47.978]
That way, I don't forget which titles

[00:48:51.159]
aren't done yet

[00:48:52.938]
and it doesn't have to be me. I can have

[00:48:55.139]
a really good sub

[00:48:56.639]
that I know can do this.

[00:48:58.878]
I can have a T A not into Destiny

[00:49:01.128]
or my OPEC, I

[00:49:02.519]
can have them do this into

[00:49:04.570]
a word document

[00:49:06.000]
and cut and paste a volunteer.

[00:49:08.449]
So it doesn't have to be you.

[00:49:10.409]
Um And also, I've already talked to two reps

[00:49:12.918]
from Gale showing them

[00:49:15.119]
these slides and showing just how beneficial.

[00:49:17.820]
If they could do this for us,

[00:49:20.449]
then they'd be helping all of their customers

[00:49:22.760]
instead of us doing this individually.

[00:49:25.769]
So let's hope that this is something

[00:49:27.849]
that they're going to offer us in the

[00:49:29.918]
future

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and that's it.

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And Connie, that's pretty incredible what you've managed

[00:49:35.539]
to do. It's, it really is.

[00:49:38.010]
It really is. We once you, I mean,

[00:49:40.610]
it's not like it's hundreds and hundreds of

[00:49:42.668]
books. So

[00:49:44.628]
sure, we do

[00:49:46.780]
have one question for you actually in the chat. Um

[00:49:49.260]
talking about A I, so have

[00:49:51.679]
you considered using artificial intelligence

[00:49:53.929]
to kind of um automate this a little

[00:49:56.188]
bit or just kind of speed it up at all? Have

[00:49:58.219]
you considered that?

[00:50:02.628]
That will be for my next purchase?

[00:50:04.648]
So, I hadn't thought of that until, um,

[00:50:07.168]
the last purchase my husband had said something like

[00:50:09.360]
that. And, um, I'm gonna

[00:50:11.489]
try that for the next f foundational

[00:50:14.030]
list. Thank you. If you

[00:50:17.648]
did it for me. Can you believe that? Can you imagine?

[00:50:20.550]
Hm. Can you imagine if, for

[00:50:22.860]
instance, maybe it can find

[00:50:25.159]
it not on an OPEC but somewhere else

[00:50:27.429]
or something? I don't know.

[00:50:30.409]
Yeah, I, I think we're gonna have to work on it and

[00:50:32.469]
I think honey, we're gonna have to uh keep

[00:50:34.668]
up to date and hear how that's working for you. I think

[00:50:36.688]
that's, it's great to see

[00:50:38.869]
how we can get A I kind of working

[00:50:40.929]
with gale resources, not over gill resources,

[00:50:43.219]
but with the gill resources, of course.

[00:50:46.539]
Ok. Awesome. So uh Christy

[00:50:48.559]
Brett, how about you guys?

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Um

[00:50:52.199]
Mine tips and tricks are

[00:50:54.309]
pretty uh straightforward.

[00:50:57.269]
I love the editing mark records.

[00:50:59.550]
Anything we can do to increase that

[00:51:01.590]
accessibility? Visibility? That's

[00:51:03.688]
incredible. Um

[00:51:05.949]
I was thinking just, you know, another reminder

[00:51:08.668]
to, of course, you know,

[00:51:10.708]
our Contin area teachers el A

[00:51:12.750]
teachers, those are our bread and butter, but

[00:51:15.269]
make use of your counselors

[00:51:18.260]
in your school. But also think about your

[00:51:21.030]
um ec teachers or special

[00:51:23.260]
education teachers because of

[00:51:25.360]
all those accessibility features.

[00:51:27.679]
A lot of times knowing about

[00:51:30.019]
those accessibility makes

[00:51:32.300]
these very complex um

[00:51:34.458]
high quality texts

[00:51:36.530]
feel inaccessible to

[00:51:38.679]
some of our struggling students. But

[00:51:40.789]
when their teachers know that

[00:51:43.159]
those accessibility features are there

[00:51:45.360]
and can help navigate that's

[00:51:47.398]
huge and a lot of times that leads

[00:51:49.438]
to other usages and other

[00:51:51.539]
um collaborations as well.

[00:51:54.059]
And

[00:51:55.030]
my shortcut to almost everything.

[00:51:57.639]
I love the Gale support site

[00:51:59.760]
and Amber. I think you're probably gonna share a

[00:52:01.769]
little bit about that, but

[00:52:03.699]
I just share my screen just real quick. Uh

[00:52:06.438]
I want to.

[00:52:10.449]
So, um,

[00:52:12.668]
with the

[00:52:14.320]
marketing materials on the

[00:52:16.340]
support site,

[00:52:17.659]
you can browse by type or by

[00:52:19.728]
product and

[00:52:21.369]
when you go to

[00:52:23.458]
buy product and look at your Gale ebooks,

[00:52:25.668]
they've got all these templates, everything

[00:52:28.059]
for being able to send

[00:52:30.378]
emails to search topics

[00:52:32.978]
to all kinds of things. Plus

[00:52:35.369]
a bunch of um, digital

[00:52:37.909]
assets that can be used for social media.

[00:52:40.260]
So,

[00:52:41.199]
um, I used some of these for Cameron's

[00:52:43.438]
collection to make bookmarks that our counselors

[00:52:45.878]
handed out. So it's

[00:52:48.000]
just, there's so much great

[00:52:50.208]
stuff and this seems

[00:52:52.289]
to be getting lots of updates too.

[00:52:54.489]
So I'm sure Amber can tell us more.

[00:52:56.659]
Um, my last tip or trick is

[00:52:59.300]
make use of your usage stats

[00:53:01.898]
because

[00:53:03.179]
it's one of those things that

[00:53:05.820]
just like you might regularly share

[00:53:08.119]
how many books you circulated or how many

[00:53:10.208]
books you added.

[00:53:11.739]
You know, how

[00:53:13.820]
much time is being spent in Gale ebooks,

[00:53:16.219]
how much time, uh, how many searches

[00:53:18.409]
are being done. Those are things

[00:53:20.659]
that kind of, wow, teachers.

[00:53:23.329]
Um And definitely

[00:53:25.780]
when we're thinking about funding and advocacy,

[00:53:28.500]
those share, you know, show

[00:53:30.769]
that we are being good stewards of

[00:53:32.898]
limited funding. So definitely

[00:53:35.369]
take full advantage of those

[00:53:37.418]
stats that are available.

[00:53:43.789]
Thank you, Christy. Love that Brett.

[00:53:45.739]
I will support it, but after Brett

[00:53:48.019]
has his uh his time as well,

[00:53:50.329]
so, yeah, sure. So I'm going to piggyback

[00:53:52.628]
on what uh Christy said there for a moment. The stats.

[00:53:55.280]
Yes. Uh with everybody,

[00:53:57.469]
right, teachers, administrators and actually

[00:53:59.659]
a couple of years ago for the first time I put

[00:54:01.769]
together a newsletter for

[00:54:03.800]
parents for parent night because the parents

[00:54:05.869]
come in, they go to the classrooms, but I get

[00:54:08.059]
just a trickle in the library, sadly, but

[00:54:10.639]
uh doing the best you can with those that do come in

[00:54:12.844]
and I would have all of those stats. There was just a great

[00:54:15.155]
talking point to parents and most

[00:54:17.184]
of them didn't know what you were talking about, but in two minutes

[00:54:19.394]
or less, you can kind of, you know, fill them in with their

[00:54:21.534]
options besides just, you know, googling

[00:54:23.954]
and, and what we do with our kids. So, uh I love

[00:54:26.425]
having the stats readily available and

[00:54:28.454]
they're, they're impressive. All right. Um

[00:54:30.800]
The other thing I would say, this doesn't necessarily

[00:54:33.668]
mirror what the others have mentioned, some of the maybe

[00:54:35.840]
the backroom tricks and tips, but

[00:54:38.070]
I just keep going back to

[00:54:39.889]
the functionality of these databases,

[00:54:42.039]
the ebooks and all of the gale platform. They're

[00:54:44.090]
just lovely sophisticated

[00:54:46.530]
tools, right? It's that right blend

[00:54:48.610]
and it's, it's a great sandbox

[00:54:50.739]
for our kids to get good at using

[00:54:52.929]
these sophisticated tools. Right? I mean, they

[00:54:54.958]
learned how to use a graphing calculator and

[00:54:56.978]
other things uh in school

[00:54:59.000]
and, you know, this is kind of our realm and this is what we

[00:55:01.019]
need to teach them. And, you

[00:55:03.110]
know, I found so for several years now, we've been taking

[00:55:05.280]
seniors off campus a number of our seniors

[00:55:07.559]
to do uh research at a college

[00:55:09.679]
library for senior inquiry, right?

[00:55:11.750]
And I, I find that direct

[00:55:13.769]
correlation between their success off campus

[00:55:16.260]
and the amount of repetitions I've had with

[00:55:18.340]
them here, right? Using some

[00:55:20.369]
of these sophisticated tools again, look looking

[00:55:22.530]
at all of the functionality in these

[00:55:24.789]
particular products and,

[00:55:26.398]
you know, hands down the gale products are superior

[00:55:28.898]
in that in that way, right? They're just

[00:55:30.989]
very sophisticated. You, you have so much more

[00:55:33.110]
control over the content,

[00:55:35.260]
which once you're in there, you can manipulate the

[00:55:37.510]
data in a way that you can't in virtually

[00:55:39.628]
any other environment which I love. And I think,

[00:55:41.829]
you know, once they kind of get comfortable and confident

[00:55:44.159]
doing that, that it is such a transferable

[00:55:46.378]
skill to the next level for a lot of them.

[00:55:50.840]
I agree. I really, I definitely

[00:55:53.628]
agree with that. I thank you Brett for those, those

[00:55:55.668]
great ideas.

[00:55:57.119]
Um So we are right about

[00:55:59.139]
at our time. So I do want to wrap it up, but

[00:56:01.369]
since Christy mentioned it, I am going

[00:56:03.469]
to kind of shout out the support side, I put

[00:56:05.668]
it in the chat

[00:56:06.820]
already. It's just support dao.com

[00:56:08.938]
and I know Christy showed you our marketing

[00:56:10.969]
section,

[00:56:11.889]
but we also have a really great uh training

[00:56:14.090]
section as well. So if you go to

[00:56:16.110]
support dao.com/training,

[00:56:18.719]
uh you also find like webinars and tip sheets,

[00:56:20.949]
you can send out to your teachers

[00:56:22.969]
and shorter tutorials. And I know Brett

[00:56:24.989]
mentioned um trying to get parents

[00:56:27.159]
involved to get the information out to parents. We actually have

[00:56:29.918]
uh we call them student letters, I believe.

[00:56:32.628]
Um but they're really fast overviews

[00:56:34.869]
about the resources and we have them for all of our resources

[00:56:37.909]
that can be handed out so parents can read about

[00:56:40.159]
it. Students can read about it, they can know,

[00:56:42.398]
oh ge books is going to help me, do

[00:56:44.389]
you know XY and Z? And hopefully

[00:56:46.398]
the parents when they get home will say, oh, have you done your

[00:56:48.458]
homework? You better check out GE books is

[00:56:50.978]
the goal. Of course, if it happens,

[00:56:53.219]
who knows, but uh you'll find a lot of that stuff

[00:56:55.639]
on support.g.com as well. So

[00:56:57.719]
thank you Christy for mentioning it and Brett for mentioning

[00:57:00.099]
trying to get the information out to parents.

[00:57:02.840]
Um and I do have some wrap up uh contact

[00:57:05.070]
information I want to give everyone before we

[00:57:07.099]
do kind of hop off for the day. So if

[00:57:09.219]
you have any questions about our session today, um

[00:57:11.239]
about getting the recording if you didn't get it

[00:57:13.349]
or just, I don't know something general about the

[00:57:15.478]
session, feel free to just reach out

[00:57:17.489]
to me. It's Amber dot Winters at 10 gauge.com.

[00:57:20.869]
If you want to talk more about how you can use

[00:57:22.898]
Gilly Books in your particular learning community

[00:57:25.128]
and want to get a little bit more specific with it.

[00:57:27.478]
Reach out to your customer success manager, you

[00:57:29.550]
can set some time with them, kind of just

[00:57:31.780]
review your collection where you

[00:57:33.840]
want your collection to go, how you can get it there.

[00:57:36.188]
If you don't know your customer success manager is

[00:57:38.378]
so you can just go to or send an email to Gail

[00:57:40.429]
dot Customer success at send

[00:57:42.619]
gage.com and we'll forward you to the correct person.

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Uh If you want to know more about purchasing

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ebooks, maybe you wanna talk about Cameron's collection.

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We mentioned that a few times

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um as well. You can reach out to

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your sales consultant. If you don't know who that is,

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just go ahead and go to support.go.com/rinder,

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you know, before you'll be able to reach out to that

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person and they can work with you to talk about Cameron's

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collection. We also have uh Camp

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Cameron's collection for our young kiddos, our K

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five kiddos. So if you're interested in that,

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you can certainly reach out to your sales

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consultants.

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I've also included Stacy Zuzu,

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who's our senior product manager for Gael Ebooks.

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Uh, she's actually on the line with us today because

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she really wanted to hear what's going on with the GE

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books. Can I hear from the front lines? So

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if any of you have suggestions

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or feedback about Gael Ebooks,

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she wants to hear it. I want to hear it.

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Uh, please feel free to either email her directly

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or email her and I or me and

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I can email her, uh, any

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way you want to do it. We want to hear your feedback. We want to hear

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your thoughts about ge books, how we can improve

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it, what we should keep doing.

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So, her information is there as well and

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Connie, it looks like you put your email on the web

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in the chat, but it went just to

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panelists. So I'm gonna put it here. So,

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uh, Connie has.

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Yep, Connie shared her email with everyone as well. So

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if you want to reach out to her, maybe talk about

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the excellent work she does with her Mark records.

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Um I'm sure she would love to speak with you

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about that. Um, so Connie's information

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is in the chat. Um,

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Christy Brett, you can certainly add yours in there if

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you would like to. Of course, you don't have to, but

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feel free to do that.

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Um, and that's

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all we have today. So, again, I haven't seen

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any more questions come in.

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Um, it looks like Brett is typing into the

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chats. Um, looks like

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Christy might be as well. Yeah. Ok.

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So that won't end just yet. So we'll

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get there, there we go. So we have their information

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in the chat. So if you have questions for

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them that you didn't ask on this session or that you

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maybe think of later,

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feel free to reach out to them as well. So you've got

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a whole host of, um, of

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people you can reach out to because you wanna make sure that you're

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as successful as you can possibly be with

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your ebooks.

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Now, I'm going to go ahead and end our session today. But

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first, I do want to thank my panelists for being

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on the line. The information you just gave us all was

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incredibly helpful. And I know I have things

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that I'm going to take from this as I start to work with

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other schools and other librarians.

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And I'm sure everyone else who's on the line feels the

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same way. So thank you for, for being

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here, really appreciate it.